Gerry Gilbert reads from Money (York Street Commune, 1971) and from Phone Book (Weed/Flower, 1969) as well as some poems from unknown sources.

David McFadden reads mostly from from The great Canadian sonnet (1970).

George Bowering

00:00:08.82

We have two readers tonight, both Canadian poets, as you know, but in most cases when we have two poets as we did last time, we generally have one poet read for a while, and then have a break, and then have the other poet read for a while, but we're not going to do it that way tonight. We're just going to throw the thing open to both David McFadden and Gerry Gilbert and they will work it out as it seems to work out for them. This makes a lot of sense, although they've never read together before. They're both published by the same publishing house, and published in the same magazines and know each other, as they used to say in the old days in the Ivy league, by reputation. Gerry Gilbert is, as a lot of people we've had this year, is from the West Coast and has been involved for quite a while with an outfit in the coast that gobbles up your tax money called Intermedia. That's why the screen is there, something might happen there occasionally. Gerry was at one time the editor of a seminal West Coast publishing venture called radiofreerainforest, and is the author of a series of books and things that are like books, as for instance, White lunch which came out several years ago in Vancouver and the Telephone book which is published by Coach House Press, I think— No, Weed/Flower, sorry. Yeah. David has also been published by Weed/Flower and the Coach House Press, and his forthcoming book is the second volume of the Big/Little Book novel, called The great Canadian sonnet with illustrations by a little-known London artist named Greg Curnoe. His next book is going to be called Poems worth knowing, a title that anyone from Ontario or British Columbia will know. What we're going to do is they're going to operate for a little while, and then when they feel the need for a break there will be a short intermission, like about ten minutes, then we'll proceed again with what as they say the second set. So I'm not going to be able to say that somebody's reading first and somebody's reading second but I will be able to say is that the readers will be David McFadden and Gerry Gilbert.

 

David McFadden

00:02:40.00

CUT  reads unknown poem "They try to teach you things so fast in school..."

 

Gerry Gilbert

00:06:03.72

CUT reads "Her right face, where I have seen her ride the last bus before..."

 

Gerry Gilbert

00:07:14.54

"A moving picture moves. It's the truth about movies..." [in the section "For Crying Out Loud," in Money]

 

David McFadden

00:07:33.80

"At the vending machine, Garfield got a bag of..."

 

Gerry Gilbert

00:08:20.35

"I remember tootsie rolls were only in American comic books..." [in the section "For Crying Out Loud" in Money]

 

David McFadden

00:09:46.71

"I sat next to her on the bus. She kept adjusting her black wig..."

 

Gerry Gilbert

00:10:38.60

"Four o’clock stove to off- remember..." ["London 1964" in the section "For Crying Out Loud," in Money]

 

David McFadden

00:12:28.58

"Received your postcard today and dropped it..."

 

Gerry Gilbert

00:13:37.20

"The waitress calls the man in the corner, Harry. Harry is one of my names..." [in the section "For Crying Out Loud" in Money]

 

David McFadden

00:14:30.56

"Nine inches from navel to vulva, your scar begins to heal..."

 

Gerry Gilbert

00:14:53.74

"The pleasure I said, I dreamed I was in Vietnam..." [in the section "For Crying Out Loud", in Money]

 

David McFadden

00:16:14.33

"Dreams have become so full of intricate detail..."

 

Gerry Gilbert

00:18:26.85

"Rum bay, 15 years in logging camps, 7 years fishing..." ["Single Mens Unit" in the section "For Crying Out Loud" in Money]

 

David McFadden

00:19:05.68

"The Bursby police are a fine group of men and treated me well during my ordeal..."

 

David McFadden

00:21:03.24

"Napanee home for aged Japanese Canadians..."

 

Gerry Gilbert

00:23:13.77

"Goodness and Mercy are following me across the lake..." [in the section "For Crying Out Loud" in Money]

 

Gerry Gilbert

00:24:10.87

"Bicycle, mount, mount to project..." ["Bicycle" in the section "For Crying Out Loud" in Money]

 

Gerry Gilbert

00:24:55.57

"On the bed, we held, two hands a pot...." unknown

 

David McFadden

00:25:32.92

"The successful young alderman of ambition..."

 

David McFadden

00:26:05.12

"The tub was dirty so I washed it out..."

 

David McFadden

00:26:18.11

"I'm leaving on Saturday, Harry the sweeper talking..."

 

Gerry Gilbert

00:26:49.52

"Blow by blow, solid, solid, short..." [unknown poem]

 

Gerry Gilbert

00:27:56.69

[Speaks]Somebody listens to passes? play, that was the blow-blow.

 

Gerry Gilbert

00:28:03.06

"Bone, ring on my finger, bell..." [in the section "For Crying Out Loud" in Money]

 

David McFadden

00:28:34.64

"Spitting out the used up toothpaste in the sink...."

 

David McFadden

00:31:05.77

"If you're lucky enough to be there when your name is called..."

 

Gerry Gilbert

00:32:10.33

We're reading Canadian History. A few of the poems from Phone Book.

 

Gerry Gilbert

00:32:28.79

"Mirror, mirror, from Middle English..." [in Phone Book]

 

Gerry Gilbert

00:33:05.36

"Stabit, she's big, her mom sed beefcatle! we're not dairy cows..." [in Phone Book]

 

Gerry Gilbert

00:33:42.83

"Day after tomorrow, Charlie, he's 77, he's Chaplain..." [in Phone Book]

 

Gerry Gilbert

00:34:31.44

"Conductor, CN Conductor, loyal..." [in Phone Book]

 

Gerry Gilbert

00:35:25.47

"It began to rain, we sat on the hill and I was getting wet..." [in Phone Book]

 

Gerry Gilbert

00:36:37.23

"The killer is at the top window, firing down..." [in Phone Book]

 

Gerry Gilbert

00:36:58.89

"Can't see the key, you have to reach for it..." [in Phone Book]

 

Gerry Gilbert

00:37:29.93

“This poem's called "Garden".”

 

Annotation

00:37:35.16

Gerry Gilbert reads "Garden" [in Money]

 

David McFadden

00:38:38.36

"No one knows his own potential for evil..."

 

David McFadden

00:39:21.63

"I made a left turn from Houston onto King..."

 

Gerry Gilbert

00:39:50.27

"Find your birds, ladies and gentleman, it's time to go..." [in the section "For Crying Out Loud", in Money]

 

David McFadden

00:41:32.90

"She was small and pretty, my heart broke..."

 

Gerry Gilbert

00:42:04.58

"Sometimes I miss the times I miss, the rain don't miss..." [in the section "For Crying Out Loud", in Money]

 

David McFadden

00:42:18.81

"Knowledge expands to fill the vacuum left by loss of spirit..."

 

David McFadden

00:42:57.49

"Am Alabama-bound, my brain is firm and round, don't need to know you..."

 

Gerry Gilbert

00:47:06.20

Did I hear you say 'boiled skunks'?

 

Gerry Gilbert

00:47:27.20

“This is a little tale. "I rolled down the slime trail after slug...".”

Gerry Gilbert

00:49:24.0

"Semitic origin, these etymological discussions run parallel..."

Gerry Gilbert

00:49:45.91

"Spadina Salvation Army, December 1969"

David McFadden

00:51:42.3

"Vital Statistics, Distances from Hamilton to Boston..."

Gerry Gilbert

00:53:02.45

"A place in mind clicks, switch, as soon as I think, slug and stupid prick, wet stone and pair of eyes, paradise and over the bridge and over the sun....nobody is a fucking character..."

David McFadden

00:54:52.10

"Joan was telling me how she was driving over Brucedale in that afternoon..."

David McFadden

00:55:52.73

"The dog across the street is a little Pekinese..."

Gerry Gilbert

00:56:53.0

“I heard you coughing there, here's some good stuff for coughs. "I was in Ottawa and I went to Parliament and they're all faking it" and "Matches, I never saw Eddie in Ottawa...".”

Gerry Gilbert

00:57:33.70

"I can't find the sky, push me into this room" and  "I see you and baby, you and baby see me..." and following is a Rochdale College Council meeting, 23 Nov 1970, "9 or 10 council men and women, 30 or 40 people all together, kids and smoke crowded around..."

David McFadden

01:01:24.96

"Collier’s Encyclopedia says that Andre Gide was not quite as great as Marcel Proust..."

David McFadden

01:01:39.92

"Joan said she was miserable that day at the House of Vogue..."

Gerry Gilbert

01:09:59.70

[CUT ]And uh, "Buddha, somebody stole my head again" and "I jacked-off standing off..." and "We've been having technical difficulties for 50,000 years" and "Go sooner than you expect" and  "If you like lots of food, if you can stand..."and "Ticket, way West, 1st 20 min rest stop..." "Pictures of Windows, clocks, lights..." "Pencil, don't dry out...", "Each a life, eat your wife" and "Fried egg sandwich on brown..."and "the world is so young..." and "Your own, a better night, sleep alone" and "She loved me..." and "hair, hooked behind my ears when..." and "your first is something nobody knows anything about..."

David McFadden

01:13:54.07

"The car was running very well back down the road to Walkerton..."

Gerry Gilbert

01:23:26.16

"I know what I'm doing, I'm doing it..."

Gerry Gilbert

01:27:05.17

"Eagle, hear me coming, combing long thoughts..."

Gerry Gilbert

01:27:52.83

"Water the garden after the sun went down..."

Gerry Gilbert

01:28:44.07

"Each size, big places I been seen..."

Gerry Gilbert

01:29:04.74

"Sweet, sweet babyland bird..."

Annotation

01:29:19.78

END OF RECORDING.

David McFadden and Gerry Gilbert at SGWU, 1971

Tape
Catalog numberI006-11-019
Labels1 reel, 60 min, 3 3/4ips, 1/4”, 7” reel
Duration01:29:19.78
Sound qualityFair to poor
Reading
SpeakersDavid McFadden, Gerry Gilbert, introduced by George Bowering
VenueConcordia, unknown
DateJanuary 15, 1971

Supplemental Material

Timestamps

00:00- Unknown Male introduces David McFadden and Gerry Gilbert

02:40- David McFadden reads first line “They try to teach you things so fast in school...”

06:03- Gerry Gilbert reads first line “Her right face, where I have seen her ride the last bus before...”

07:14- Gerry Gilbert reads first line “A moving picture moves...”

07:33- David McFadden reads first line “At the vending machine, Garfield got a bag of...”

08:20- Gerry Gilbert reads first line “I remember tootsie rolls were only in American comic books...”

09:46- David McFadden reads first line “I sat next to her on the bus. She kept adjusting her black wig...”

10:38- Gerry Gilbert reads “London 1964”

12:28- David McFadden reads “Received your postcard today and dropped it...”

13:37- Gerry Gilbert reads “The waitress calls the man in the corner Harry...”

14:30- David McFadden reads first line “Nine inches from navel to vulva...”

14:53- Gerry Gilbert reads first line “The pleasure, I said, I dreamed I was in Vietnam...”

16:14- David McFadden reads first line “Dreams have become so full of intricate detail...”

18:26- Gerry Gilbert reads “Single Mens Unit”

19:05- David McFadden reads first line “The Bursby Police are a fine group of men...”

21:03- David McFadden reads first line “Napanee home for the aged Japanese Canadians...”

23:13- Gerry Gilbert reads first line “Goodness and Mercy are following me...”

24:10- Gerry Gilbert reads “Bicycle”

24:55- Gerry Gilbert reads first line “On the bed, we held, two hands a pot...”

25:32- David McFadden reads first line “The successful young alderman of ambition...”

26:05- David McFadden reads first line “The tub was dirty so I washed it out...”

26:18- David McFadden reads first line “I’m leaving on Saturday, Harry the sweeper talking...”

26:49- Gerry Gilbert reads first line “Blow by blow, solid, solid, short...”

28:03- Gerry Gilbert reads first line “Bone, ring on my finger, bell...”

28:34- David McFadden reads first line “Spitting out the used up toothpaste...”

31:05- David McFadden reads first line “If you’re lucky enough to be there when your name is called...”

32:28- Gerry Gilbert reads first line “Mirror, mirror from Middle English...”

33:05- Gerry Gilbert reads first line “Stabit, she’s big, her mom sed...”

33:42- Gerry Gilbert reads first line “Conductor, CN Conductor...”

35:25- Gerry Gilbert reads first line “It began to rain, we sat on the hill...”

36:37- Gerry Gilbert reads first line “The killer is at the top window...”

36:58- Gerry Gilbert reads first line “Can’t see the key, you have to reach...”

37:29- Gerry Gilbert reads “Garden”

38:38- David McFadden reads first line “No one knows his own potential for evil...”

39:21- David McFadden reads first line “I made a left turn from Houston onto King...”

39:50- Gerry Gilbert reads first line “Find your birds, ladies and gentlemen...”

41:32- David McFadden reads first line “She was small and pretty, my heart broke...”

42:04- Gerry Gilbert reads first line “Sometimes I miss the times I miss...”

42:18- David McFadden reads first line “Knowledge expands to fill the vacuum left by loss of spirit...”

42:57- David McFadden reads first line “Am Alabama-bound, ma brain is firm and round...”

47:24- END OF RECORDING

47:26- Gerry Gilbert reads first line “I rolled down the slime trail after slug...”

49:23- Gerry Gilbert reads first line “Semitic origin, these etymological discussions...”

49:45- Gerry Gilbert reads “Spadina Salvation Army, December 1969”

51:51- David McFadden reads first line “Vital statistics, distances from Hamilton to Boston...”

53:02- Gerry Gilbert reads first line “A place in mind clicks, switch...”

54:51- David McFadden reads first line “Joan was telling me how she was driving...”

55:52- David McFadden reads first line “The dog across the street is a little Pekinese...”

56:52- Gerry Gilbert reads series of poems starting with first lines “I was in Ottawa...” and “Matches, I never saw Eddie...”

57:33- Gerry Gilbert reads series of poems starting with first lines “I can’t find the sky...” and “I see you and baby...” and “9 or 10 council men and women...”

01:01:24- David McFadden reads first line “Cauliers Encyclopedia says...”

01:01:39- David McFadden reads first line “Joan said she was miserable that day...”

01:09:59- Gerry Gilbert reads of series of short poems with first lines “Buddha, somebody   stole...”, “I jacked-off..”, “We’ve been having technical...”, “Go sooner than you   expect...”. “If you like lots of food...”, “Ticket, way West...”, “Pictures of windows...”, “Pencil, don’t dry out...”, “Each a life, eat your wife...”, “Fried egg  sandwich...”, “The world is so young...”, “Your own, a better night...”, “She loved me...”, “Hair, hooked behind my ears...”, “Your first is something nobody...”

01:13:53- David McFadden reads first line “The car was running very well...”

01:23:25- Gerry Gilbert reads first line “I know what I’m doing...”

01:27:04- Gerry Gilbert reads first line “Eagle, hear me coming...”

01:27:52- Gerry Gilbert reads first line “Water the garden after...”

01:28:43- Gerry Gilbert reads first line “Each size, big places...”

01:29:04- Gerry Gilbert reads first line “Sweet, sweet babyland bird...”

01:29:19- END OF RECORDING

References

Bowering, George, ed. The Contemporary Canadian Poem Anthology. Toronto: Coach House  Press, 1984.

Berry, Reg. "McFadden, David"  The Oxford Companion to Twentieth-Century Poetry in English. Ian Hamilton.

Oxford University Press, 1996. Oxford Reference Online. Oxford University Press. Concordia University Library, Montreal.  16 September 2009  <http:// 0-www.oxfordreference.com.mercury.concordia.ca/views/ENTRY.html?subview=Main&entry=t58.e716>.

Davey, Frank. "McFadden, David"  The Oxford Companion to Canadian Literature. Eugene Benson and William Toye. Oxford University Press 2001. Oxford Reference Online. Oxford University Press.  Concordia University Library, Montreal.  16 September 2009 <http://0-www.oxfordreference.com.mercury.concordia.ca/views/ENTRY.html?subview=Main&entry=t201.e947>.

---.  “Gerry Gilbert”.  From There to Here: A Guide to English-Canadian Literature Since 1960, Our Nature-Our Voices II. Erin, Ontario: Press Porcepic, 1974

---. “David McFadden”. From There to Here: A Guide to English-Canadian Literature Since 1960, Our Nature-Our Voices II. Erin, Ontario: Press Porcepic, 1974

Gilbert, Gerry. Money. Vancouver, 1971.  (York Street Commune Press?)

---. Phone book. Toronto: Weed/Flower Press, 1969.

---. White lunch; poems. Vancouver: Periwinkle Press, 1964.

---. Grounds. Vancouver: Talonbooks, 1976.

---. Lease. Toronto: Coach House Press, 1972.

---. And. Vancouver: Blewointmentpress, 1971.

McFadden, David. The great Canadian sonnet. Toronto: Coach House Press, 1970 & 1974.

---. Great Lakes Suite. Vancouver, Talonbooks, 1997.

“Poetry Readings.” OP-ED (Sir George Williams University, Montreal). October 6, 1967: page 6.

Transcript, Research, Introduction and Edits by Celyn Harding-Jones


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